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mythology
Rusty wedges were historically only about reflection – that's it – it was never about spin. Played the Cleveland CG12s for 10 years and the guys in the shop would scrub them with iron wool to keep them rust free and clean – but they still reflected way less than plated wedges and that is why I played them.
Wow 15 minutes to be told inconclusive,what a load of crap,talks more rubbish than most reviewers on YouTube
Won’t the rust make your golf balls all dirty?
Been a lot of focus on spin from different Youtube channels lately, I buy wedges from the feel and how easy they are to hit, and that they dont dig too much. I expect them all to spin enough.
Rusty wedges confirms for me that short game improvement is a “feel good” effect from the brain just like a placebo effect. As you have demonstrated, it probably isn’t the rusty wedges making any difference but we think it is. Oh well, it sells more wedges.
I think when it comes to your wedges what ever looks good to your eye and gives you confidence to make a solid swing. Chrome, rust, what ever helps you trust the club. I like the chrome look personally and it has the have a shape the suites my eye.
Rusty wedge, no thank-you. I also wouldn't buy one that was too shiny. A nice dull, matt finish for me.
No thanks, thought the whole idea, like a lot, was rubbish years ago! What next? Low profile irons again? I’ll stick to my Glide stealths, then 3.0 Glides when I wear the stealths out!
I'm not sure how accurate these tests can be due to human error. A machine like the "Iron Byron" would be a better way to test. I do not think I put a lot of credibility to this test.
As for the looks of the club – rusty or not – does not matter to me. The feel and performance are most important, in fact I have played both types of clubs and do not feel a difference between my rusty wedges and the newer ones. As to spin, for me there is not enough difference one over the other and I am a 6.2 handicap at 60 years old. So I have a lot of experience with both types of wedges.
wasted 11 min of my life on this useless review.
Strike is king!
No. However, try them in the rain, see what happens
the groves on the rusty wedge look dirty compared to the new one? Clean groves means more spin yes?
mmmmm – jury really is still out on this one. I wonder when the oil can finish will come back into vogue again?
You need to do multiple shots with each, most other YouTube reviewers got a little bit more spin from the rusty face. Very suspicious that your rusty wedge was spinning like a 6 iron?
And there you have it. Buy the wedge that you like the look and feel of and leave it at that. Anytime you stand over the ball and feel confident in your ability to do with it what you want to, then you have half the battle won. If that club is a $2 sand wedge of indeterminate brand and loft that you bought at a closing down sale some 20 years ago and it still does the trick, don't change it.
And dont forget the rust ,likes too travel to the other club,s which is very anoying in my mind .. ( from past proof on my mizuno RAW ox )
If it rusts bin it,not for me rusty wedges my sm7s are cleaned after each use grooves still ok
I love the look of a rusty look wedge !
Unless you play golf off of a single figure with a high swing speed, you’ll struggle with the Taylormade MG2’s. The reason is that there isn’t a lot of bounce on the clubs until you get to a 60 degree. I’ve had mine for about 4 months now and find that they are producing serious amounts of backspin. Great for chips and pitches. However, on wet greens, they make the ball very lively and harder to control.
New wedges are very exy these days so if rusting up gives longer life then thats a good thing.
All of these claims sound bogus and from an engineering perspective, I'm really struggling to see the true benefits here. I'm wondering if this is a marketing stunt.
Here are my follow up comments to the 3 reasons he mentions why rusty clubs are advantageous:
1) "It should feel softer" – If a particular hardness was what was desired, you could achieve that with particular alloy and temper selection. Not leaving it up to variable hardness as it rusts, which will change over time.
2) "Rusty texture on face increases friction" – Same here, you can achieve a certain coefficient of friction with material selection and surface finish operations. If you want to target a specific roughness, you can design for that and maintain it better with material selection, rather than leaving it to rust to allow for highly variable results.
3) "Preserve the geometry of the grooves better over time" – This is nonsense. As the base material rusts it becomes brittle and slowly chips away, the more it rusts, the more it chips away. So it's quite the opposite with respect to preserving geometry. If you wanted to preserve geometry, you would choose a material that does not rust.
I also briefly checked Taylormade's website, and it doesn't seem to have any scientific explanation for this rust phenomenon, which suggests, to me, that it's probably just marketing.
I don't think rust has any benefits other than glare reduction and maybe a placebo effect. However I am actually impressed with the Cleveland rtx and always have liked Cleveland wedges.
It's possible that rusty wedges would be better for a wet course. The surface may be better at handling water than a smoother surface
Rick shiels tested this too and rusty wedge created MORE spin than nonrusted
Boo jt bad rewiwer
Im curious about the rust there. Did you wire brush any off? My 2 cents but it looks maybe a bit too rusty? lol
Someone doesn’t like Taylormade lol
Sharpening the grooves will give you much more spin than an old or rusty wedge.
$160 for a rusted wedge is stupid,
Must be the same ppl who buy Kanye west’s bum clothes
Do you talk in your sleep too?
The relevant test is not between a new wedge and the same wedge rusty. It's between a non-rusting wedge to a rusting wedge both of which have been used the same amount.
You must have kbs shafts in them. Spin way way too high.
Lost 33% of spin…. I still say if you can wipe off the "red", it is loose on the face and "loose" and "friction" do not coincide. Think burn out on pavement vs. gravel road. No friction on gravel.
I actually prefer raw wedges, but brushed out and steel wooled. Feels pure to me
You have to hit more than one shot with each dude.
I’m not amazing by any means but I have a 20 year old tour action Cleveland sand wedge that’s rusty. I legitimately get more spin using it than my 60 lob with a satin finish (also Cleveland). I’m buying a new 60 and it will be a raw finish in order to rust. The other thing to consider is the feel. My .02
Just rub your thumb back & forth over a raw wedge with no rust and then do the same with a regular wedge. The raw wedge has way more friction and that is even before the rust forms.
Haha – my old Tour Edition sand wedge is rusty through sheer old age. It's an awesome wedge with a really big bouncing base. One of my most valuable clubs..
your ball speed are faster in the brand new mg2 which is why you got better spin numbers
You can't test different wedges against different wedges and compare their spin numbers you've got to test a rusty Cleveland against a pristine Cleveland not an sm-7
For those using raw faces, do they wear your ball surface quickly? I like the idea of these, but don’t want to be replacing my balls after every round. Cheers
For those using raw faces, do they wear your ball surface quickly? I like the idea of these, but don’t want to be replacing my balls after every round. Cheers