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From what im seeing and hearing! I don't think it matters! There would have to be alot more testing
I dont think it makes a difference at all. I would consider it if I was a competition shooter.
Ok, all things being equal, my guess is that the right fletch pausing the natural left turn before beginning the right rotation could be a good thing. At 300 or so fps, the right spin begins within a meter or two of the rest, which looks bad in high speed but realistically happens very quickly. The left helical is for sure applying an increasing amount of torque to the arrow shaft until the nock releases from the string, which is being amplified by the fletching as it accelerates.
That torque must absolutely influence the way the arrow comes out of the bow which will ultimately need to be tuned out and then sighted in. The right helical is balancing out the torque created by the string launch perfectly as you can see in the high speed since the arrow leaves the string with almost zero rotation.
My guess is that if you took the same exact everything with the only variable being the fletch direction, without adjusting sight, the left helical will group further from the aim point. Both arrows tuned to a bullet hole, it won't be as different, but any variation from that I feel would be magnified to some degree by the left helical. Try taking a bow out of the box without tuning, group it with bare shafts and then try it with both helical directions, and my guess is that the one spinning the arrow towards the direction of natural rotation will actually be worse before tuning. Just my half baked guess.
Edit: Also, the arrow that doesn't start spinning until it leaves the bow completely has no chance of fletching contact. That's a good thing imo.
Cleary going with the helical to match your bow string twist makes a difference…it's right there on video. Now if it makes a difference noticeable to an amateur good shooter…I doubt it, but the only reason I see to going against your bow's natural twist would be price, because so many arrow manufacturers make a right helical.
Surely it's wasting energy ..
these guys are saying the short pause before the fletchings take over (with the blazers) is most likely a bad thing. But then Dudley recently does tests and talks with an Olympic advisor/ arrow test lab guy and they agree that you DONT want the arrow spinning while the spine is sorting itself out ie you don't want the fletching turning the arrow while its wobbling all over the place in the theoretical up and down plane. They say let the arrow stop oscillating, then let the vanes spin the arrow. So who do you believe? Problem is that most people on this side of youtube aren't good enough shots to really be able to test that. We're taking the word of pro's who can't really agree.
Also I'd like to see someone take the bow/arrow off a guy who says their arrows always clock left or right, and have them shot through a hooter shooter to confirm there's no human inputs that influence that. I've seen enough vids where strings wound this way or that and even the same brand bareshafts that turned different ways out of the same bow. Could it just be face pressure, type of seer (single or caliper, opens inward vs outwards) and the effect that has on the way the D-loop whips around after the shot, that is the bigger influence?
I'll take an APA, enjoy your Elites sir.🤮
Lots of comments on the points coming loose. Beeswax on the threads will stop this from happening. I shoot left helical and since using beeswax my points all stay tight
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I use the Nitro vanes as they are stiffer than blazers
Makes no difference
No body is measuring anything. Where is the scientific data? Until then this is another subjective observation and for most archers a big waste of time. The big elephant in the room is how consistent is the archer. Accuracy vs. Precision you need to know the difference so you can stop wasting time and money.
the arrow comes off the string with zero rotation with opposite helical, from an aerodynamic standpoint, this is what you want. after the arrow is in free flight, picking up spin means its going where its supposed to. idk opposite vane helical make so much sense to me, but i get why people would opt for left helical. im about to test it myself, we'll see.
I"ve never seen a difference plus your using two different vanes.
As too much spin is just as bad as no spin, always straight fletch to neither enhance nor fight that natural spin of the arrow and avoid all this nonsense.
I can see that it has developed a mind of it's own, it stops a bit and then decides to spin… A Sentient Arrow. Maybe with the right incentive it can seek gold by itself?
Best advice…go shoot…a lot. I haven't shot an arrow since 1973 but am just now starting to shoot again. This time I dont have a pro to go to make my arrows and strings or to advise me of anything. I found myself worrying about r-l=s fletching. All the super tuning stuff. Then I saw the video that said just go shoot and practice with what you have. That's enough for me. It's all fun now. Not as much fun as golf, but I grew a beer belly and cant swing a club without twinking my belly. Archery will get me out walking again. But w/o the gators.🤣
Looked to me like the vane on the blazer shaft either hit the cable guard or the riser before it even left the bow and that is what caused the delay in spin to the right. Look closely and you will see it hit something as you can see it twitch and the vane flexes to the left a bit before it leaves the bow.
It does not matter.
Now if you have a fixed rest, anything but a drop-away, this might be beneficial to have a slight delay in rotation, as the arrow leaves the string, and travels through the support arms on the rest. Especially on smaller diameter arrows, when your trying to avoid fletching contact with the rest. Something to think about.